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[Request]Regional Officers Act

Post by Vulturret on Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:15 am

Emperor,

With a vote of 4-0-1, the Senate has passed this bill, which if you approve of, will become law. Here is the bill.
General Aav Whitehall and General Vulturret wrote:THE REGIONAL OFFICERS ACT:

Article I: Preamble:
Understanding that the position of Regional Officer is a position of trust;
Recognizing the need for regional officers;
Hereby creates the Regional Officer Act.

Article II: Definitions:
Border Control: The ability to eject a nation from the region.
Appearance: The ability to pin dispatches, and change the WFE.
Polls: The ability to call polls.
Embassies: The ability to create and destroy embassies.
Communications: The ability to send region-wide telegrams.
Executive: The ability to appoint and dismiss regional officers, as well as modify them.
Vetted: The Senate gets the forum admin team to run an IP background check, and interviews the possible appointee. The Senate then confirms the nominee with a 67% (2/3) super majority following the established procedure in the Senatorial Procedures Act.

Article III: Border Control:
Noticing that the most powerful among these is the border control power;
Realizing that it should not be handed out lightly;
Hereby requires all possible border control appointees to be vetted by the senate, and Department of War and the Department of Defense.

Realizing that the Emperor may wish to put certain individuals in a regional officer position;
Recognizing the previous clause;
Hereby determines that the Emperor shall be able to appoint Regional Officers by fiat, but also realizing the need for regional security, declares that the Emperor can appoint officers with the Polls, Embassies, and Communications power without approval from the Senate.

As such, to be considered as a nominee, the prospective appointee to the regional officer position may be put into the office without senate confirmation first. However:

Article IV: Appearance
Realizing that the power of Appearance was not granted as a power givable by fiat;
Recognizing that such regulations already exist for Border Control, which requires senate confirmation;
Declares that a candidate for the Appearance position be confirmed by the Senate;
Recognizing that even the Emperor's power should not be limitless;
Realizing that if one person is to declare by fiat, the regional officers;
Hereby limits the Emperor to declaring more than 3 people regional officers by fiat.

Article V: Offices:
Recognizing that certain offices of the government need certain regional officer powers to do their jobs, this bill establishes precedent for the following offices:
Secretary of State: Requires the ability to use Embassies power to extend our foreign relations abroad, does hereby require the founder to give the SoS embassies power.
Secretary of Defense: Requires the ability to use Border Control power to protect the homeland, expedites the process of Senate confirmation for elected SoD. In order to confirm the SoD to Border Control, this bill directs the Head of the Senate to do this immediately upon taking office, and only requires a 50%, simple majority to approve.
Crown Prince: Requiring the powers to successfully administrate in the Emperor's place, hereby grants the Crown Prince all powers except border control. The Crown Prince shall be given border control upon confirmation by the senate. The crown prince shall also be the World Assembly Delegate for the Undivided Nations.
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Re: [Request]Regional Officers Act

Post by Aestra on Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:17 pm

Denied as i deem it unconstitutional under Article II: the emperor, 15 and or 16

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Re: [Request]Regional Officers Act

Post by Vulturret on Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:36 pm

Very well, it'll be archived, and then the Senate will re-visit the bill for those things you have pointed out? Could you give a more detailed explanation? Those articles you pointed to don't seem to have anything to do with the proposal in question.
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Re: [Request]Regional Officers Act

Post by Aestra on Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:50 pm

Restricting my ability to appoint only three although understandably for security reasons would eventually deny me the ability which is to appoint and be rid of a cabinet member.

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Re: [Request]Regional Officers Act

Post by Vulturret on Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:52 pm

Could you like, quote those random sections of the constitution you gave and explain how they apply in any way?
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Re: [Request]Regional Officers Act

Post by Aestra on Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:53 pm

Oops didnt mean to mention 16 im on the phone and a bit in a rush but here is 15
"15. TM shall have the right to appoint and dismiss members of the Cabinet."

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Re: [Request]Regional Officers Act

Post by Vulturret on Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:57 pm

Could you please explain how this bill prevents you from doing so? It doesn't, it merely prevents you from making them regional officer, which isn't required for them to do their jobs. We're not allowed to deny them anything other than Border Control. 15 is something that'll need to be amended in the future, but we don't need to worry about that right now. I'm more concerned with urging you to change that. It's frustrating that the monarch isn't cooperating with the Senate. All we're trying to do is make the region better and more secure. You seem to be trying to prevent us from doing that.
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Re: [Request]Regional Officers Act

Post by Aestra on Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:59 pm

I am very sorry for this but i have done this in a rush and have to go in two minutes but, i thought you meant preventing me entirely limiting me to two.

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Re: [Request]Regional Officers Act

Post by Aestra on Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:05 pm

I must leave for a bit we will have a discussion upon my return.

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Re: [Request]Regional Officers Act

Post by Aav VerinHall on Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:34 pm

"15. TM shall have the right to appoint and dismiss members of the Cabinet."

Regional officer is not connected to cabinet at all. Your majesty, this therefore is a fully constitutional bill, and should not be denied on the grounds of violating the constitution. This therefore should be passed by you unless you have a further objection to the bill. Otherwise, you have no reason to not pass the bill. And therefore, I ask that you pass the bill immediately.

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Re: [Request]Regional Officers Act

Post by Vulturret on Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:46 pm

OK, Aestra we'll talk when you get back.
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